Set Temp. on Danfoss LC-13 HeatingThermostat

[PollinyBijdrager]

Hello all,

i connect the Danfoss thermostat to my PluseStation via zwave (on Raspberry Pi). Add it to the Dashboard as “Simple Value” and see the current temp. that was set by me on the tehrmostat.
But now i want change the temp. over the PulseStattion.
What kind of panel i have to creat? And what value i musst change ?

[Miss LauraModerator]

Did you already try deleting the panel and generating it automatically.
Usually it creates the correct panels, with options to change the temperature.

Have fun,
Laura

[PollinyBijdrager]

Thank you.
I tried it, but nothing will be created for the thermostat.

Can i help you to understand my problem, with more infomration that you need?

[K.RensSleutelbeheerder]

I just launched the latest version of the zwave library.
Can you try updating it, clearing the config file (not reset the zwave stick)?

Maybe then the parameters are a bit more clear.
Once we know the parameter, we can develop a panel for it.
We could reuse parts of the Nest thermostat panel for instance.
For now you could control it via for Instance Imperihome or by creating a blocky scene that increases the temperature if your activate it inside the dashboard.

I do not have that hardware, so I cannot test it, nor is it easy to develop panels for it. 🙁

Kind regards,
K.Rens

[PollinyBijdrager]

Hi,

i update the zwave library and clear the config. The panel will dont created.

I send you some information about this device, maybe this helps.

Can youn give me an example for a blocky scene, how it could that look.

Thank YOU!

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[PollinyBijdrager]

i try to create an bloky scene but i have a problem to increase the value. because i cant finde the right operator, and the second problem ist how i can allocate the scene to a panel?

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[PollinyBijdrager]

sorry for all this questions and reports. But i want finished my Projekt 🙂
I try to modify the property(Heating 1) via the zwave service, but the thermostat dont confirm the new value.

2016-11-13 22:05:54.189 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:05:54.190 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x51, 0xab
2016-11-13 22:05:54.206 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x52, 0xd7
2016-11-13 22:05:54.206 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:05:54.206 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:05:54.207 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:05:54.207 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:06:07.867 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:06:07.868 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x53, 0xa9
2016-11-13 22:06:07.869 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x54, 0xd1
2016-11-13 22:06:07.875 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:06:07.875 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:06:07.876 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:06:07.876 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:06:32.398 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:06:32.399 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x55, 0xaf
2016-11-13 22:06:32.400 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x56, 0xd3
2016-11-13 22:06:32.400 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:06:32.401 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:06:32.401 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:06:32.402 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:07:06.672 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:07:06.673 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x57, 0xad
2016-11-13 22:07:06.706 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x58, 0xdd
2016-11-13 22:07:06.706 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:07:06.706 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:07:06.707 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:07:06.707 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:07:31.909 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:07:31.916 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x59, 0xa3
2016-11-13 22:07:31.916 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x5a, 0xdf
2016-11-13 22:07:31.917 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:07:31.917 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:07:31.918 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:07:31.918 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:08:05.940 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:08:05.940 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x5b, 0xa1
2016-11-13 22:08:05.956 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x5c, 0xd9
2016-11-13 22:08:05.956 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:08:05.956 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:08:05.957 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:08:05.957 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:08:31.689 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:08:31.689 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x5d, 0xa7
2016-11-13 22:08:31.690 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x5e, 0xdb
2016-11-13 22:08:31.691 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:08:31.691 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:08:31.691 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:08:31.692 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:09:10.823 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:09:10.823 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x5f, 0xa5
2016-11-13 22:09:10.825 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x60, 0xe5
2016-11-13 22:09:10.828 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:09:10.828 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:09:10.829 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:09:10.829 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:09:32.301 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:09:32.302 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x61, 0x9b
2016-11-13 22:09:32.315 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x62, 0xe7
2016-11-13 22:09:32.316 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:09:32.316 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:09:32.317 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:09:32.317 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:10:07.579 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:10:07.580 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x63, 0x99
2016-11-13 22:10:07.645 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x64, 0xe1
2016-11-13 22:10:07.646 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:10:07.646 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:10:07.647 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:10:07.647 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:10:31.967 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:10:31.967 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x65, 0x9f
2016-11-13 22:10:31.976 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x66, 0xe3
2016-11-13 22:10:31.976 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:10:31.977 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:10:31.977 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:10:31.977 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:10:59.085 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Controller) Has Node Failed
2016-11-13 22:10:59.090 Info, Requesting whether node 5 has failed
2016-11-13 22:10:59.090 Detail, contrlr, Queuing (Command) ControllerCommand_HasNodeFailed: 0x01, 0x04, 0x00, 0x62, 0x05, 0x9c
2016-11-13 22:10:59.091 Detail, Notification: ControllerComand - Starting
2016-11-13 22:10:59.296 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:11:01.504 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:11:01.505 Info, contrlr, Sending (Command) message (Callback ID=0x00, Expected Reply=0x62) - ControllerCommand_HasNodeFailed: 0x01, 0x04, 0x00, 0x62, 0x05, 0x9c
2016-11-13 22:11:01.509 Detail, contrlr,   Received: 0x01, 0x04, 0x01, 0x62, 0x01, 0x99
2016-11-13 22:11:01.509 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:11:01.515 Warning, Node005, WARNING: Received reply to FUNC_ID_ZW_IS_FAILED_NODE_ID - node 5 failed
2016-11-13 22:11:01.516 Error, Node005, ERROR: node presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:11:01.516 Detail, Node153,   Expected reply was received
2016-11-13 22:11:01.516 Detail, Node153,   Message transaction complete
2016-11-13 22:11:01.517 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:11:01.517 Detail, contrlr, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:11:01.517 Detail, Node005, Notification: Notification - Node Dead
2016-11-13 22:11:01.728 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:11:07.426 Detail, Notification: ControllerCommand - NodeFailed
2016-11-13 22:11:07.978 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:11:10.256 Info, Node005, Value::Set - COMMAND_CLASS_THERMOSTAT_SETPOINT - Heating 1 - 1 - 1 - 21
2016-11-13 22:11:10.257 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Set (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0d, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x01, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0x34, 0x25, 0x67, 0x9d
2016-11-13 22:11:10.257 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Send) ThermostatSetpointCmd_Get (Node=5): 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x13, 0x05, 0x03, 0x43, 0x02, 0x01, 0x25, 0x68, 0xed
2016-11-13 22:11:15.678 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:11:15.678 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:11:15.679 Error, Node005, ERROR: Dropping command because node is presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:11:15.679 Detail, Node005, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:11:28.817 Detail, Node005, Queuing (Controller) Has Node Failed
2016-11-13 22:11:28.818 Info, Requesting whether node 5 has failed
2016-11-13 22:11:28.818 Detail, contrlr, Queuing (Command) ControllerCommand_HasNodeFailed: 0x01, 0x04, 0x00, 0x62, 0x05, 0x9c
2016-11-13 22:11:28.819 Detail, Notification: ControllerComand - Starting
2016-11-13 22:11:29.010 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:11:30.167 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:11:30.168 Info, contrlr, Sending (Command) message (Callback ID=0x00, Expected Reply=0x62) - ControllerCommand_HasNodeFailed: 0x01, 0x04, 0x00, 0x62, 0x05, 0x9c
2016-11-13 22:11:30.172 Detail, contrlr,   Received: 0x01, 0x04, 0x01, 0x62, 0x01, 0x99
2016-11-13 22:11:30.172 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:11:30.173 Warning, Node005, WARNING: Received reply to FUNC_ID_ZW_IS_FAILED_NODE_ID - node 5 failed
2016-11-13 22:11:30.173 Error, Node005, ERROR: node presumed dead
2016-11-13 22:11:30.173 Detail, Node153,   Expected reply was received
2016-11-13 22:11:30.174 Detail, Node153,   Message transaction complete
2016-11-13 22:11:30.174 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:11:30.174 Detail, contrlr, Removing current message
2016-11-13 22:11:30.175 Detail, Node005, Notification: Notification - Node Dead
2016-11-13 22:11:30.227 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:11:31.204 Detail, Notification: ControllerCommand - NodeFailed
2016-11-13 22:11:31.306 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:16:44.893 Detail, Node005,   Received: 0x01, 0x09, 0x00, 0x04, 0x00, 0x05, 0x03, 0x80, 0x03, 0x3c, 0x4b
2016-11-13 22:16:44.893 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:16:44.894 Error, Node005, WARNING: node revived
2016-11-13 22:16:44.894 Info, Node005, Received Battery report from node 5: level=60
2016-11-13 22:16:44.894 Detail, Node005, Refreshed Value: old value=60, new value=60, type=byte
2016-11-13 22:16:44.895 Detail, Node005, Changes to this value are not verified
2016-11-13 22:16:44.895 Detail, Node005, Notification: Notification - Node Alive
2016-11-13 22:16:44.948 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:16:46.356 Detail, Node005, Notification: ValueChanged
2016-11-13 22:16:47.383 Info, Notification: Value Changed - Add DB Record for device id zwave-5 and value id 128-user-byte-1-0 
2016-11-13 22:16:47.478 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:16:48.966 Detail, Node005,   Received: 0x01, 0x0c, 0x00, 0x04, 0x00, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x03, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0xca, 0x35
2016-11-13 22:16:48.967 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:16:48.968 Detail, Node005, Refreshed Value: old value=22.50, new value=22.50, type=decimal
2016-11-13 22:16:48.969 Detail, Node005, Changes to this value are not verified
2016-11-13 22:16:48.969 Info, Node005, Received thermostat setpoint report: Setpoint Heating 1 = 22.50C
2016-11-13 22:16:48.970 Detail, Node005, Notification: ValueChanged
2016-11-13 22:16:50.041 Info, Notification: Value Changed - Add DB Record for device id zwave-5 and value id 67-user-decimal-1-1 
2016-11-13 22:16:50.142 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:16:51.648 Detail, Node005,   Received: 0x01, 0x0c, 0x00, 0x04, 0x00, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x03, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0xca, 0x35
2016-11-13 22:16:51.649 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:16:51.649 Detail, Node005, Refreshed Value: old value=22.50, new value=22.50, type=decimal
2016-11-13 22:16:51.650 Detail, Node005, Changes to this value are not verified
2016-11-13 22:16:51.650 Info, Node005, Received thermostat setpoint report: Setpoint Heating 1 = 22.50C
2016-11-13 22:16:51.651 Detail, Node005, Notification: ValueChanged
2016-11-13 22:16:53.421 Info, Notification: Value Changed - Add DB Record for device id zwave-5 and value id 67-user-decimal-1-1 
2016-11-13 22:16:53.528 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:16:55.207 Detail, Node005,   Received: 0x01, 0x0c, 0x00, 0x04, 0x00, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x03, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0xca, 0x35
2016-11-13 22:16:55.208 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:16:55.208 Detail, Node005, Refreshed Value: old value=22.50, new value=22.50, type=decimal
2016-11-13 22:16:55.209 Detail, Node005, Changes to this value are not verified
2016-11-13 22:16:55.209 Info, Node005, Received thermostat setpoint report: Setpoint Heating 1 = 22.50C
2016-11-13 22:16:55.210 Detail, Node005, Notification: ValueChanged
2016-11-13 22:16:57.196 Info, Notification: Value Changed - Add DB Record for device id zwave-5 and value id 67-user-decimal-1-1 
2016-11-13 22:16:57.403 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:17:00.999 Detail, Node005,   Received: 0x01, 0x0c, 0x00, 0x04, 0x00, 0x05, 0x06, 0x43, 0x03, 0x01, 0x42, 0x08, 0xca, 0x35
2016-11-13 22:17:00.999 Detail, 
2016-11-13 22:17:01.000 Detail, Node005, Refreshed Value: old value=22.50, new value=22.50, type=decimal
2016-11-13 22:17:01.001 Detail, Node005, Changes to this value are not verified
2016-11-13 22:17:01.001 Info, Node005, Received thermostat setpoint report: Setpoint Heating 1 = 22.50C
2016-11-13 22:17:01.002 Detail, Node005, Notification: ValueChanged
2016-11-13 22:17:04.350 Info, Notification: Value Changed - Add DB Record for device id zwave-5 and value id 67-user-decimal-1-1 
2016-11-13 22:17:04.570 Info, mgr,     Manager::WriteConfig completed for driver with home ID of 0xd6ac8854
2016-11-13 22:17:09.086 Detail, Node005,   Received: 0x01, 0x0a, 0x00, 0x04, 0x00, 0x05, 0x04, 0x46, 0x08, 0x00, 0x7f, 0xc1

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